The Mary Jane Experience A Journey Through the Cannabis Industry Wed, 12 Feb 2020 22:37:22 +0000 en-US hourly 1 The Mary Jane Experience 32 32 Healing Crohn’s With Cannabis | One Woman’s Mission to Spread the Word Tue, 11 Feb 2020 17:34:20 +0000

Healing Crohn’s With Cannabis | One Woman’s Mission to Spread the Word

Yvette Stafford Jones’ Son Was suffering from severe Crohn’s Disease, they tried everything and cannabis was the most effective treatment. She is now on a mission to spread the word and honor others that are also trying to spread the word, so that no one else has to suffer the way her son did.

We talk about her foundation as well as some different methods that have worked for treating her son’s condition. If you are a person suffering or know someone who is, please do not hesitate to reach out for more information or to be connected to someone who can help.

Also mentioned in this interview is our upcoming Women in Cannabis ‘Galentine’s Day’ Event. For more information on that click here.

Here is our interview:


Also here is a video of the interview:



Tell us About Yourself, Who You Are and What You Do?

My name’s Yvette Stafford Jones. Everybody knows me as Nunee Jones. I am the founder of the Crohn’s Charity Service Foundation. I got into this because I was trying to save my son’s life. 

The pharmaceuticals were so expensive, and of course, they’re not good for you. He was offered Remicade (a prescription drug for Crohn’s)  that cost him $8,000 every eight weeks for the past five years.

We were lucky enough to find out that cannabis helped and it has my son in remission right now. 

Strawberry Sequoia and Nunee Jones

Strawberry Sequoia and Nunee in Front of the CannaVan

Now I’m just spreading the news, helping other people to not hit that brick wall. They don’t have to go the expensive and unhealthy way of pharmaceuticals. They can have the cannabis experience. The Crohn’s foundation is trying to spread the word.

For anybody out there that might have Crohn’s but have never considered cannabis, how can cannabis help with Crohn’s and Crohn’s symptoms?

Crohn’s is a tricky disease. Every person is different. Once they find out what works for them as far as a cannabis consumption method – maybe smoking (smoking is supposed to be number one for Crohn’s) or vaping.

You need a direct method of consumption – you don’t need any processing. Directly to the bloodstream. Whole plant is ideal.

CBD works well, high milligrams of CBD that is as pure as you can get it. Crohn’s is based on swelling/inflammation and we all know that cannabis is anti-inflammatory.

So that’s the key. You have to shop around and experiment to find what works best for you. Smoking seems to help the most, especially if you have flare-ups.

I travel with my chef now. We’ve talked about smoking, we’re talked about vaping, we talked about edibles, but we need to implement cannabis into our diet. So our chef makes medicated infused food. 

Tincture is an easy way as well – you can use tincture to infuse your food or beverages.

Cannabis for Crohn's

Tell us About Your Blood Sweat and Tears Award?

We are celebrating people in the industry that are helping to get the word out. 

Last year we lost a great guy in Florida, Bill Monroe. I thought about how he put his blood, sweat and tears into this industry. So I created the ‘Blood, Sweat, and Tears Award’. 

We are at the Women’s Conference and one woman here I want to celebrate is Stacy Thompson. She had a lot of doors slammed in her face. But people are starting to listen. People are learning. They’re understanding and coming together.

So, I’m going to present her an award today so that when she goes home on those lonely nights and she says ‘why am I doing this?’ She can take a look at that award and know that the blood, sweat and tears that she puts into it’s well worth it. 

Let’s Get back to Crohn’s For a Sec, Tell Us Some More Methods That Are Effective for the Condition?

Topicals are effective. You can rub topicals on your stomach (intestinal area) and that seems to help. I believe the best rule of thumb is a combination of methods to find a cure – so topicals, tinctures, smoking, and lifestyle, like diet, exercise, everything combined.

The endocannabinoid system needs to be balanced when you have Crohn’s. A lot of doctors are getting back into this. On the medical side, they’re realizing they were not taught about this in medical school. It was taboo for so long. But those tides are turning I think in five, 10 years. Hospitals are going to be on it and be trained in using cannabinoids.

When you take the Hippocratic oath and you make it your life’s mission to take care of people and you see something working – you have to acknowledge it as a cure. Which is why de-stigmatization is so important.

More Information about Cannabis use for Crohn’s Disease:

Most studies done on Crohn’s and Cannabis have been inconclusive. It seems that cannabis works for some and not others, but many patients have seen incredible results.


We do not have enough evidence to conclusively say that Cannabis is a Cure or even a great treatment, but because there are so few side effects of cannabis – it is completely safe to experiment with.


We suggest experimenting with different methods and starting low and slow. Journaling can help you learn what is helping and what is hurting your body.


As mentioned above, if you are a person suffering or know someone who is, please do not hesitate to reach out for more information or to be connected to someone who can help.


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Cannabis 101: Will Taking CBD Make Me Fail a Drug Test? Thu, 06 Feb 2020 16:42:19 +0000

Cannabis 101: Will Taking CBD Make Me Fail a Drug Test?

 Will Taking CBD Make Me Fail A Drug Test?

We get a lot of people asking this question and it is not just a yes or no answer. Here is everything you need to know before taking CBD if you are being drug tested – or if you are simply curious.

There are 3 types of CBD on the market:

  • CBD Isolate
  • Broad Spectrum CBD
  • Full Spectrum CBD

Infographic: CBD Isolate VS Broad and Full Spectrum CBD

CBD Isolate: CBD Isolate has been processed so that the only cannabinoid present is CBD. There will be no THC, CBD, THCV, or other cannabinoids. This makes CBD Isolate 100% safe if you are being drug tested. The disadvantages of Isolate are that most believe that without the other cannabinoids present in the cannabis plant, you will not experience what is called the ‘entourage effect” or simply put: all of the cannabinoids working together to produce the best possible effect. 

Some say it doesn’t work at all for some people’s endocannabinoid system, some say it depends on the strain or plant. The best rule of thumb is to try a few different products and record how you feel using a journal.

Broad Spectrum CBD: Broad-spectrum can vary from product to product – but is generally thought to be safe for drug testing if the company can provide a COA (Certificate of Authenticity) stating that no THC is in the product. Make sure to clarify this before you use a broad-spectrum product! We would suggest this over isolate simply because you have a better chance of achieving the sought after entourage effect – the closer to ‘whole plant’ the better.

Full Spectrum CBD: Do not take full-spectrum CBD if you are trying to pass a drug test. While the THC levels in full-spectrum are extremely low (you won’t get high) and it is fairly unlikely you will fail – it IS possible. It is not suggested if you are not being drug tested – then we would 10/10 suggest full spectrum to enjoy the above-mentioned entourage effect.

Some Other Things to Note:

  • When CBD flower is decarboxylated it does increase the THC levels. 
  • Unless you are buying isolate which is not possible in flower form, you will always have trace amounts of THC which can show up in a drug test. 
  • THC builds up in your system and is stored in fat cells so if smoking repeatedly, your chances will go up – especially in people who have a higher body fat ratio. If you smoked just once, your chances are fairly low.
  • Always ask for a COA (certificate of analysis) when buying CBD products. This will tell you if there is THC in it (so you can watch out for that drug test) – but will also tell you how much CBD if there are pesticides present, if there is mold, and if there are other toxins in your product.
  • If a company does not 3rd-party lab test, they are not to be trusted! 3rd-party lab testing is the only way to know for sure what you are buying. The CBD market is unregulated – thus you have to do your own research.
  • Products should be stored in a temperature-controlled space out of sunlight. The freezer or fridge is best (though oils will coagulate). This will prevent the degradation of CBD content.
  • Get to know your body – record your experiences using a journal and take note of how you feel. Everyone’s body is different and some products work better for others. Just because it worked for your sister-in-law doesn’t mean it will work the same way for you.

Questions? Don’t be afraid to ask us directly here >>>

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Cannabis Banking with The CEO of Artery Pay Ashley Elsner Wed, 05 Feb 2020 07:23:00 +0000

Cannabis Banking with The CEO of Artery Pay Ashley Elsner

Ashley Elsner was able to find relief from her chronic pain condition (CRPS Type two) using cannabis. This plant medicine was the only thing that helped her, even after trying just about everything else. Being a patient led her to take interest in the cannabis industry and coming from a financial background, she immediately focused on the banking problems the cannabis industry is facing.

 Ashley studied economics in college and went directly into merchant banking afterwards. Her fairly new company ArteryPay works similarly to Venmo – but for weed!

Learn more from our interview at The National Women of Cannabis Conference.

Tell us your story? Where are you from?


I’m originally from Georgia. I went school up East and ended up working in a financial institution, law and operations, for about 15 years and on the East coast. I ended up out in California – that’s where I am now.

Strawberry Sequoia and Ashley Elsner

Strawberry Sequoia and Ashley Elsner in Front of The CannaVan


How did you get into cannabis?


 I’m actually a cannabis patient and so I did a little voting with my feet as happens when you need access to something that you can’t get where you are. I have a condition called CRPS type two. It’s a very nasty pain condition that goes along the neuropathic pain ways.


Cannabis is the only thing that I was able to find that actually worked for it. I was very fortunate to find it. I had spent over a decade trying all types of other medications and even tried some extreme treatments like surgical Nerve entrapment releases, and all kinds of lifestyle changes. I really tried everything. 


Ashley Elsner Quote about Medical Cannabis

The first time I tried cannabis, it was an incredibly moving moment for me. I cried because it was the first time in over 10 years that I was pain-free. I found that the pain relieving benefits actually lasted for 24 hours. So while I had been concerned about what kind of impact it would have on me professionally, I found that I could actually take it at night.


The pain relieving benefits would last 24 full hours before I would need to re-dose. That’s well beyond any bad impact that it could have. And then of course, it’s fantastic for sleep. It just ended up working out really well as a treatment option for me and helped me come off of some of those other more difficult to tolerate treatments that I was already on. 


People’s medical treatment should be between them and their doctors. There should not be so much impatience with people. I’m trying to just survive. I’ve never really understood why our society chose that path [criminalizing cannabis]. But the fact is there’s a lot of corrective action that’s happening right now, which is very promising. It is inspiring. 


When I saw the financial problems that were going on in the space as well and the lack of support that was coming from our corporate financial world, I knew I had to do something. 


I took political science at Yale and this is one of those things where you can see the path changing and correcting. There are so many positive benefits. From criminal justice reform, to economic, to patient care, to safety. I mean it’s fantastic.

So tell us a little bit about what you do? 


I actually used to be in merchant banking, so this is my wheelhouse. I studied economics and that was my first job out of college. 


My company is called ArteryPay. We recently joined an institution called Artra financial as our parent company. What’s really lovely about this product is that it works very similarly to Venmo. There is no card processing involved.


Artery Pay Logo

The card processing itself is not illegal because card processing is illegal. It’s illegal because the card processing networks refused to work with this space. They will not provide the merchant category codes, which means that anytime somebody is trying to process a transaction using a card, it’s being miscoded. That’s money laundering, plain and simple. 


It has to do with the institutions. It has nothing to do actually with the law. Now, if you were to report these transactions correctly to the government, there’s no money laundering. But that’s the problem is it’s not being reported correctly. It never will be while the card networks are not actively allowing cannabis transactions to occur on their system. 


That also creates problems because obviously if you’ve got problems with merchant banking, you’ve got problems with banking as well, right? You have to have a place to be able to deposit those funds and that’s a bit of a problem as well.


So What Are People Doing Right Now?


 I know plenty of people out in Massachusetts right now that are sending interns with backpacks full of cash to the bank. They’re being followed by the cartel. They’re being followed by gang members to the bank. You’re sitting there with $60,000 bucks in cash sitting in a backpack. Really? Come on guys. 



What other option do you have? It’s terrible. But now we do have another option. 


How Does Artery Pay Work?


So this operates very similarly to Venmo except you’re able to use it in commerce, not just in transacting with other people. In that way, it’s different from Zelle. It’s different from Venmo because again, you can use it in commerce. 


It supports online commerce as well as in store and even on the go. So if you’re going to a festival, you can actually use it without having to have any additional equipment. It’s totally integratabtle with other software systems because it’s set up that way.


From the consumer interface, and this is what I’m really excited about up with our joining up with Artra, they have this fantastic consumer interface that is going to make engaging with the consumer from a merchant perspective much, much easier. 


We’re talking about increased foot traffic, of course sales lift because you’re no longer operating on cash, right? Then you’re also talking about consumer loyalty. There are plenty of opportunities there to actually bring more people into your store and keep loyal customers coming back, as well as encourage them to engage with brands, and engage with your actual retail store. It’s really an outstanding product.

What Does this Mean for The Cannabis Industry?


It is not fair to expect the cannabis industry to know all the ins and outs of financial institution law. That’s bonkers because it’s highly fragmented, it’s hard enough just to know the law of cannabis. From a financial institution perspective, you’re regulated at a lot of different levels. 


It’s a very fragmented regulatory system and the laws that you’re governed by are fragmented as well. It’s a hot mess. I just happened to be a specialist in that. I happen to care a lot about making sure patients have access to this product and that we don’t get derailed on legalization, which is where I think we’re going.


I’ve been working on it for three years. So like this is a fully baked product, it’s not somebody throwing stuff at the wall. 


Where can people find more information? 


They can go to That is our primary source right now. 


Ashley Elsner Artery Pay

What are you Doing Here at The Women of Cannabis Conference and MJBizCon?


This is a place where you have an opportunity to interact with a lot of other people engaging in the space. It’s hard to find people. The restrictions on advertising of course are a huge problem. It makes it very difficult to find the people who are decision makers within an organization.


I’m here to talk partnerships, to talk about our product with people and try to move some conversations forward. And just to make sure that people understand that we’re out there. They don’t have to have illegal processing. We are affordable and easy to use for your consumer.


We have compliance built into the transaction system, literally the financial compliance that banks have to do is built into our transaction system. It’s done automatically. It ends up making you a much cleaner and easier to track organization from a banking perspective. 


If you don’t have banking, you’ll be able to get it with record keeping. If you still have a challenge with banking, you’ll also be able to use us as an alternative to banking. We’re actually able to hold assets and trust. We do work with the armored carriers, on vaulting as well.


While banking is continuing to come on board we are working diligently to bring more banks into the space, new banks that won’t have the capacity constraints. Getting the word out about that is really important to us. 

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What Is The Difference Between Hemp Seed Oil and Hemp Extract? Thu, 30 Jan 2020 06:37:00 +0000
Hemp Seed Oil

What Is The Difference Between Hemp Seed Oil and Hemp Extract?


What The Difference Between Hemp Extract and Hemp Seed Oil?

With all the fuss out there with CBD products, it’s important to be informed of exactly what it is you are buying. For some reason, the terms Hemp Extract and Hemp Seed Oil are often used interchangeably, but they are not the same thing! 

Let’s go through a super simple explanation of the two so that you can make better decisions when buying cannabis products.

Hemp Seed Oil:

Hemp Seed oil is pressed from the seeds of the cannabis plant (hence the name) and while it may contain trace amounts of CBD, it is unlikely to contain any therapeutic amounts of the cannabinoid.

Hemp Seeds

While it does not contain much CBD, hemp seed oil has an array of other great benefits. It is said to be similar to Healthy oils like olive oil, containing omega-3 fatty acids, omega-6 fatty acids, and vitamin E. Hempseed Oil is also said to be great as a topical skincare product that does not clog pores and may even have anti-inflammatory properties.

Because Hempseed oil does not contain CBD, it should be a cheaper alternative. Though one of the reasons it is so often confused with hemp extract may, in fact, be to trick consumers into spending more for the product than necessary. So be careful!

Hemp Extract:

Hemp extract is also an oil, but it is extracted from the CBD rich flowers and buds of the cannabis plant and not from the seeds (which contain no CBD). If you are looking for a product that is rich in the healing powers of CBD extract is what you want! This product will be more expensive but is said to have loads of benefits.

What are those benefits? Taken internally (eg. a Tincture or capsule) CBD has been proven to be highly anti-inflammatory and great for people suffering from auto-immune conditions, Crohn’s, and more. The cannabinoid is said to reduce anxiety, depression, headaches, pain, and even help people sleep.

Topically CBD is said to be incredible for acne, eczema, and other skin conditions. Many claim it is also a pain reliever topically, though we are still on the fence about this claim (see article).

Know Before you Buy CBD:

  • Cannabis is a Bioaccumulator – this means it sucks up toxins from the ground. It is important to make sure your product is 3rd-party lab tested. We look for organic growing practices, and no traces of heavy metals, molds, micro toxins, or pesticides.
  • Lab testing is also important for potency. A large amount of CBD products (sadly) are mislabeled. Make sure 3rd-Party Lab testing shows the true potency per serving, otherwise you may be throwing your money down the drain.
  • Carrier Oil matters. Make sure your product is in healthy oil, like MCT.
  • The Spectrum. Is your CBD Oil Isolate, Full Spectrum, or Broad Spectrum? Isolated CBD is just the CBD cannabinoid – the advantage is you won’t fail a drug test. But in order to experience the full benefits of the plant (the entourage effect), you will need a full or at least broad-spectrum oil (the whole plant is said to be best).
  • Storage: Ideally your CBD will be in a lightproof container and temperature-controlled environment. The fridge or freezer is ideal.

Questions? Reach out (here) any time! Its what we are here for. 

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Patient Empowerment and Just Cannabis Laws with Cannabis Nurse Heather and Ken Sobel Tue, 28 Jan 2020 07:00:52 +0000
National Women of Cannabis Conference

Patient Empowerment and Just Cannabis Laws with Cannabis Nurse Heather and Ken Sobel

This Episode of The Mary Jane Experience was recorded in our Mobile Podcasting Studio, the CannaVan at The National Women of Cannabis Conference.

Nurse Heather and Cannabis Kenny are industry OG’s.

Nurse Heather has been the longest-serving medical director for a medical cannabis facility and she was the first certified cannabis nurse. She’s one of the leading experts in the therapeutic aspects cannabis use.

Canna-Kenny has been in the industry for over 15 years helping pass pro-cannabis laws.

Together they have both done some incredible things in the industry and continue to bring about positive change every day. Here is their story:

Could you both introduce yourselves? Tell us who you are and what you do.

To my left is the lovely Nurse Heather or Cannabis Nurse Heather as we refer to her affectionately in the industry. She’s been the longest-serving medical director for a medical cannabis facility and she was the first certified cannabis nurse. She’s the leading expert in the therapeutic aspects of use of cannabis.

 I’m usually just her arm candy, but today I’m also Ken Sobel – some people call me Canna Kenny. I’ve been involved in the cannabis industry for over 15 years. I’m the only person that took and passed two bar exams in the same week on my first try back in 1980 so I’ve always had a license. I was living in California and I got really interested in cannabis when I had a mother-in-law diagnosed with terminal cancer. After we brought her home with the medications that they gave her, primarily opioids for the pain she was literally in a semi-comatose state.

Someone sorta gave me the elbow and said, you know, you really need to try cannabis. And we did. We found that all of a sudden her whole attitude changed. She felt good that she got pain relief. She was able to laugh and giggle and enjoy our grandchildren. So that hooked me right away. 

Cannabis Nurse Heather and Ken Sobel

Kenny – Tell Us About Your Work in as a Cannabis Attorney and Advocate?

Pretty much since 2002, I’ve been doing nothing but cannabis work. I was the first lawyer representing The Cannabis Nurses Association to go to court and prove to a reasonable degree of scientific certainty that cannabis is safe and effective for multiple medical conditions. 

I’m very passionate. That case was for PTSD in which we were representing our returning heroes from the war. Many of them, more than people realize, came back with post-traumatic stress disorder. The reality is one out of 13 people in the United States has PTSD and the majority are actually women. And many of those are from domestic abuse or violence in the home. So basically we set the standard for PTSD and then about 15 other States adopted PTSD as a qualifying condition.

Cannabis is phenomenal for traumatic brain injury. A lot of the returning war heroes and others have suffered some type of brain trauma, which almost necessarily leads to post-traumatic stress disorder. What we found from a UCLA study (see summary here) is that if you have exogenous cannabis in your system – you’re using cannabis, as opposed to a person who doesn’t – if you suffer a traumatic brain injury, you have a four times greater chance of surviving. 

Ken Sobel Cannabis Quote

I was really passionately involved with student kids sports, the age groups of two to four and 14 to 19. The leading cause of death is traumatic brain injury. If I was to go back now and do all the soccer teams and football teams and baseball teams that I coached, I’d make sure that kids were at least having CBD as a preventative measure. 

Football for example, Heather has tons of friends who are former NFL players. You can’t do anything to protect your brain. The brain’s going to bang around inside the skull when you have collisions.They did a CTE study and they saw 126 brains from NFL players and 125 had CTE. 

One lucky guy didn’t have CTE. 

One of my expert witnesses, when we did the trial was a medical doctor who was the chairman of the US track and field Olympic substance abuse committee. He testified in favor that cannabis is safe and effective for a variety of different uses and it’s even considered a performance enhancing drug. 

Cannabis for the Brain

Thoughts from Nurse Heather on Pro Sports?

I just saw that Major League Baseball is now starting to not test for cannabis. They need to remove Cannabis as an illicit drug. If anything, in my opinion, cannabis is performance enhancing because it helps as an anti-inflammatory and neuroprotectant. 

I personally use cannabis when I do yoga. I feel anxiety. If I get to the studio and I forgot to smoke, I actually get this anxiety like can I make it? It’s going to be 10 times harder for me to get through this class. 

The vast concentration of your CB1 receptors are located in the part of the brain that Israeli researchers have identified as the emotional center of your being. All of those chemical reactions that are directly related to your emotional center are regulated in some fashion by the human endocannabinoid system. 

[Nurse heather] – Is a Big Part of your Work as a Cannabis Nurse is to Balance Patients Endocannabinoid Systems? What’s your approach? 

My approach is to listen to my patients and to learn from them. That’s how I came to cannabis. I’m celebrating my 10th year in the cannabis industry, meaning that I’ve had a license of some sort within the industry for 10 years. I’ve done a lot of different things. I’ve been blessed in that way. 

When I first came to cannabis, I was a home health psychiatric nurse and I had a patient that was 32 years old and he had MS and he was Ornery. Because I was a psych nurse, they would always say, give the crazy ones to Heather.

I said, bring them to me! I love them. He had a hard time with other nurses. I got his chart and I opened his medication record. The first medication that he had on there was cannabis. He insisted that the nurse put it on his medication record. He was actually the fifth card holder in the state of New Mexico all those years ago. I started asking him questions and assessing, how does cannabis work for you? What do you do with it? What are the benefits, what are the adverse effects? He taught me a lot because he had a caregiver that was growing his cannabis for him.

He was chair bound, so he was unable to do much. But he had a caregiver that was growing cannabis and then making different types of products for him. He taught me that he would smoke cannabis throughout the day to help him with his mood elevation. 

At night he had such a difficult time sleeping because of the spasms in his legs. Imagine trying to sleep at night with your legs spasming!  His caregiver would make topicals. This was the first time I really knew about topicals. She would make these topicals and they would put them on his legs, which would help his spasms to reduce. Then he would eat edibles and other things at night along with his muscle relaxers and things that were prescribed. 

He was able to manage a lot of his symptoms from multiple sclerosis with cannabis.

He was a great gift to me in my beginnings of knowledge with this plant and how it can be useful for serious medical conditions. I started to realize that a lot of home health patients use cannabis and it wasn’t a strange thing to see little bits of weed on their coffee tables and stuff. 

I started assessing patients and documenting what they told me. But I also realized that a lot of these patients were using cannabis without being part of the program. We’re from New Mexico and so we had what you call ‘brick weed’. I would see the quality of the cannabis that these patients had and it was junk. I tried to encourage patients to get on the program so that they could access quality medicine. 

From there my story just goes into a million different directions of doing things that will never be done again. But it was legal all at the time because we were in an emerging industry.

Expand on the Differences from the Non-Legal to Legal Cannabis Program?

At that time in New Mexico, they only sold flower. There were no smokeless alternatives. At the time I went to the department of health services and I spoke to the director of the program and said, Hey, I’ve got these patients that are on oxygen, they can be smoking. I’ve got patients that have kids in the house and they just don’t want to risk any kind of exposure. Where do patients get smokeless alternatives? 

I’ll never forget. I mean, he looked me dead in the eye and he said, we didn’t really think that far ahead, Heather. You’re going to have to figure it out.  I was like, don’t threaten me with a good time challenge! I was the first licensed edible and infusion kitchen in the state of New Mexico.

I Took care of about a third of the patients in that state. That’s when Kenny came into the picture. He pulled me away and said, we’re opening up a dispensary in Arizona and we would like you to start an edible and infusion facility there. So we did it together and it was the first one to open in Arizona and we held the market for nine months. We were the only license in the state for the first nine months. 

What Are You Two Up to Now?

Since, we’ve sold and moved on to other things. We’re in California now. We have about a dozen licenses that we’re building out. We like the startup phase. We’re in love with the California Republic. 

We’re reintroducing our product line called Nature Nurse. It’s scientifically formulated by Nurse Heather. We always believe that the best assistance that a patient can have is having their own nurse. That’s our whole philosophy. We do the full entourage, low dose, and we provide a service with our product. When someone purchases our product, they also have access to get a consultation with a qualified certified cannabis nurse.

What I’ve found is when you can empower patients, that’s where this plant is helping us to experience a revolution in health care. 

The secret to revolution in healthcare is patient empowerment. 

The more that we can empower a patient to get in tune with their own body and know what they need and what’s gonna make them feel better and how to gauge those things and be okay and trust themselves, the more we can do to help a patient. 

This plant is helping to eliminate a lot of medications. One of the things I saw as a home health nurse was, all these patients that were homebound, meaning that it required taxing effort to leave their home. A lot of them were on Oxygen. They were on hard narcotics and pain medications, opiates. 

When we could get them on cannabis and using it effectively, every single one of my patients reduced their opioids by at least 50% and many of my patients got off of opiates all completely. 

Once they did, I was able to discharge them from home health. What I learned was that pain medications were keeping people homebound. They were keeping people sick and by transferring to cannabis from opioids, patients were receiving such a better quality of life that they no longer required home health care. 

The owner of our agency didn’t like that very much. They called me in and say, Hey, you’re discharging a lot of patients from service. Why? I said, look, my patients are getting better. They use cannabis and if you have a problem with that, then we have a problem. 


The endocannabinoid system has developed over 70 million years of evolution. When you start to take that in, this is a plant that was put here by whatever all powerful force you believe in. 

But it was an all powerful force that made this plant to specifically benefit humans. That’s what it’s here for. We’re a lot closer to plants than we sometimes think we are. When we set our ego aside we realize that this plant is likely the most comprehensive, beneficial plant that we have on the planet – and there are a lot of beneficial plants.


I think the special part of this endocannabinoid system cannabis connection is that we’re finding that humans suffer from what we call chronic endocannabinoid deficiency. In medicine, anytime someone’s deficient, whether it’s vitamin B12, vitamin D, we supplement with a supplemental source. 

Cannabis is a perfect supplement for endocannabinoid deficiency. It’s amazing if you think about it from 1935/1937 when it was prohibited, cancers, immune disorders, and neurological disorders that have increased significantly over this last, 80, 90 years. 

I feel that it has to do with the fact that we’ve eliminated plants from our life, specifically cannabis and hemp, but all plants. It’s interesting right now the conversation is going in directions with psilocybin, ayahuasca and different plant medicines that traditionally have always been used for health, wellness, and community. We’re starting to see that come back again.

National Women of Cannabis Conference

We’re here for MJBizCon and The Women of Cannabis Conference. What are You Looking to Do this Week? 

We’re kicking it off with the national women of cannabis conference. I think that’s a good way to start, the beneficial part of this plant is the female plant. I think keeping the femininity alive at least to start off with is going to be great. 

Once you get to MJBizCon, it’s a little bit more male dominated and male centric, which is beautiful as well. We’re thankful to him. You need the males to pollinate the females even in the plant world. 

I’m really happy to be here at the beginning doing the women component leading into where we can be strong as women to support the men in our lives and industry that are doing good work as well. 

There are also  just a lot of parties. We’ll be at the The Dream House Party. The cannabis nurses network is sponsoring the dream event. It has a real focus on veterans. 

We’re both advocates and Ganjapreneurs as well. Last year we co-wrote a bill called Senate bill 305 in California. We did so in honor of a very dear friend whose son passed from pancreatic cancer. His story was essentially being admitted initially to a hospital that wouldn’t allow him to use cannabis. Therefore the opiates that they were pumping into him was basically making it impossible for him to enjoy what few weeks left of his life that he had. 

We moved him to another hospital that allowed it. So we wrote a Senate bill 305 in California. It basically provides safe access into conventional hospital, hospice, and healthcare facilities for hospice-type patients (end of life). We got it past 40 to nothing in the state Senate. 

We’ve got it passed 77 nothing in the assembly. When it ended up on the governor’s desk he vetoed it. 

We’ll be re-introducing that in January. I called the Governor out for being in the pockets of the big pharma – to the extent that you won’t allow a patient in hospice to use cannabis becasue they’re not paying $150 a dose for the opiates that the hospital’s going to get. 

 Meanwhile, another set of legislation in California allows up to 6.8 million K through 12 students who have recommendations to use cannabis to be able to take that medicine at school. So we’re not complaining. We just think it’s silly that even a child that is sick at school can get cannabis, but if they’re in hospice setting and they’re in the hospital they can’t access the same medicine they could access at school. 

Ken, you are an Honorary Rastafarian, can you share that story?

My beautiful friends in the Rastafarian community, predominantly in St Croix in the Virgin islands where we met Senator Positive Nelson who was the first Rastafarian Senator in the United States. Senator positive and I worked together and I wrote the medical cannabis patient care act for the us Virgin islands. It was just passed in January and now they’re moving forward to potentially have an adult legal type of thing. 

We got to know all the great, beautiful people in the Rastafarian community. The Senator as a token of his appreciation for our help – Nurse Heather was with me every step of the way – but as a token of appreciation he gave me this beautiful little pendant that I always wear.

The Senator has one he wears too. 

[Nurse Heather]

I did want to mention one thing that Ken never talks about, but I always think it’s kind of special. We had taken a trip to the us Virgin islands to do an educational tour at the request of Senator. When we got back, I had told Ken, we have got to help these people get access to cannabis. It’s ridiculous that that community where it’s ingrained in their culture, that they don’t have safe access and they have to look over their shoulders when they’re smoking. 

I went to sleep one night and I heard him typing away and I slept all night. I woke up the next morning and I heard the printer. He had written the U S Virgin islands cannabis patient care act overnight. It was passed with, with quite frankly, very little changes to it or amendments.

It was really an act of nature and the great spirit that he was able to just overnight be inspired. 

When it was finally passed this last January in 2019, it was just full circle. We experienced a lot of resistance as we were trying to get it passed. 

The governor just a couple of weeks ago has now introduced (the governor of the USVI) has introduced a recreational cannabis bill. They’re not calling it recreational. They’re calling it non-medical cannabis. I think that’s really interesting because it’s nice to see that the work that you’ve done so many years prior where you experienced a lot of pushback and resistance and heartbreak, time passes by and heals it and brings it full circle. 

It was heart filling to see that the governor had introduced this bill to provide adult use access to cannabis even amid their resistance, even to medical. Now they want the whole thing. 


A cool concept that I came up with that I want to try to get in California is to allow a higher level of home grow. Patients can grow for themselves and then allow them with the ability to sell up to a certain number of pounds into the legal adult commercial system so that families, who are not doing so well in the economy we have these days can actually grow quality strains and sell a portion of what they grow under the commercial system and make some extra money for their families. 

I’ve seen patients that got just as much joy and healing and health and wellbeing out of caring for and tending and growing cannabis plants. Even the patients that never could get a harvest. Just having the plant growing, and having something to tend to has medical value to it.

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One Woman’s Journey To Get Off Prescription Drugs Using Cannabis Fri, 24 Jan 2020 08:07:12 +0000
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One Woman’s Journey To Get Off Prescription Drugs Using Cannabis

Kate Sullivan Broke both her neck and back multiple times.

She was on 13 prescriptions taking 550 pills a month: fentanylDilaudid, ZanaflexValiumAmbien CRAtivan,  you name it, she was on it.

Kate was bedridden, in a wheelchair, and gained so much weight she was unfunctional. When she found out about medical Marijuana she decided it couldn’t be worse than the drugs she was on and she gave it a try.

Kate made an incredible recovery. Here is her story.

Tell us Who You Are?. 

I am Kate Sullivan. Medi-Kate. We’re here at the women of cannabis conference.

Tell Us Your Story?

Yes. In 1999 I broke my back. While rehabbing my back I broke my neck. With all the pharmaceuticals and the steroids they gave me I was in a wheelchair forever.

That was all in Colorado. I ended up back in Illinois because I was bedridden and I weighed 200 pounds and couldn’t do anything. So my family took care of me. My husband would leave for work and my mom would come over. Then my best friend would come over and make food, you know, shit like that. 

Basically we heard that Illinois was going to allow medical cannabis. So I started reading about everything. I was already on 13 prescriptions, taking 550 pills a month. I thought, there’s gotta be something different. I had stopped breathing twice on regular everyday pharmaceuticals. So, I thought, shit, cannabis can’t be worse than this.

Long story short we packed everything up. My husband and I sold everything and moved to Colorado and within the first, probably three months of using cannabis, I could walk again. 

I really couldn’t walk before, I couldn’t do anything. 

 I want to say March 29th I got on a plane and in my backpack were 13 prescriptions, a pair of underwear, and a pair of socks.

We stayed with our friends in Castle Rock, they opened up their home to us. Zach and Casey. We stayed with them and I basically was upstairs in a bedroom and had edibles and concentrates. Anything I could get. I detoxed off of everything. I was on fentanyl, Dilaudid, Oh gosh, you name it. Zanaflex, Valium, Ambien CR, Ativan, you name it. I was on it. 


What products did you use to Detox? How did you use them?

Edibles! While detoxing I went through about a gram and a half of concentrates a day, just dabbing constantly because of the shakes, and then edibles. I tried suppositories a little bit later and that worked because when I would vomit I couldn’t keep anything down. RSO in the butt was just as good as anything. I don’t know the exact percentage, but it’s like 83% absorption because of the gland there and it gets through the body. You don’t get the head high, you get the body high. 

So What brings you here to the women and cannabis conference? 

We have a t-shirt company, well, we have a friend that had a tee shirt company and then he wanted a cannabis line. So we joined with him and started a cannabis line of t’s and we both work in the industry. We do everything from labels, posters, I make isolate, distillate, white-label CBD, you name it, we do it. 

Yeah. Instagram is @Medikate67 

Do you use cannabis day today? Still medicinally? 

All-day. Every day. I had a broken back – three times. Broken neck, three times. Chrones, PTSD, chronic pain syndrome. Every initial that a doctor can bill you for, I have that little code. 

When I was coming off of all the narcotics, I did not really know about RSO at that time, so I was just doing anything that I could to get in my body.

I just consumed anything and everything because I was shaking and vomiting so badly. It was rough. It was a lot rougher without cannabis. Back in Illinois, I thought I was dead for sure. But then with the cannabis, it was hell, but it was tolerable Hell if that makes any sense. 

I’m a huge whole plant advocate. That’s all I talk about. I don’t care if it’s CBD, whatever it is, I want all of it because that’s what helps me. I was doing a gram of day in Colorado of RSO and then a gram of concentrates. And since we got here (Las Vegas) in this weather, I can do maybe a half a gram of RSO and maybe just 10 dabs.

What’s one thing that we’re not asking? Or something that you’d like to express to the greater world out there? 

I tell everybody since day one, since being on cannabis, it was my last choice and it should be your first choice, not your last option. If I knew the medicinal aspect of weed, I mean, I was smoking weed since I was 11 years old, but I didn’t know it was medicinal. I would do anything to get anybody off of anything because of all the shit I was on. You can come off of that. You can pretty much come off of anything

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Cannabis For Women with PTSD and Trauma | Interview with This is Jane Project Tue, 21 Jan 2020 21:09:12 +0000
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Cannabis For Women with PTSD and Trauma | Interview with This is Jane Project

We interviewed Shannon DeGrooms of This is Jane Project. This interview was done on-site at the Women of Cannabis Conference – hence the background noise.

This is Jane Project documents Women healing from Trauma in beautiful black and white photographs. Often women are smoking cannabis in the photographs – to destigmatize cannabis use to heal from PTSD, Trauma, and other pain. The women at This is Jane Project are helping women heal through community and cannabis.


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What is your name and what is your story?

 My name is Shannon DeGrooms and my story is probably as complex as everyone’s is in cannabis.

I should start by telling you about the This is Jane Project story – and then maybe a little bit about my story. 

We are 501(c)(3) status pending. We organize and document inclusive communities of women and trans women to talk about trauma healing and medicating with cannabis. We believe that the stigma surrounding that is truly what keeps us at the margins. 

We can digest the veteran’s trauma. We can talk about when they returned from war. But we still have a hard time talking about the woman who was raped. She’s still too much ‘fill in the blank’. Women are just too sensitive. 

My trauma was that within a three year period I was hit by a car as a pedestrian and then I had a botched surgery that went terribly wrong.

The very day that I left my house again, I was carjacked at gunpoint. 

Shannon DeGrooms Pic

This shit happens every day. Right? And so people go through these really heavy life experiences and, and they do it alone. We do it in isolation. I think that it’s because of stigma, whether it’s using cannabis or whether it’s the trauma that you’ve experienced or are experiencing. 

70% of PTSD patients, survivors are, are not non-military. That 70% are women that had been raped or people that have been in accidents, children of narcissists, children of alcoholics. Try growing up in the projects in Queens as a person of color. 

Cannabis for PTSD

What Does This is Jane Project do to help people? 

We provide community and we provide connection with other trauma survivors. I have to be very careful in answering that question because we’re a media project. We’re here to de-stigmatize these conversations. One of the byproducts of that is that people form community relationships. This project also advocates for women having more safe and affordable access to cannabis.

Even SB 34 (allows cannabis donations) which passed recently in California was for HIV and AIDS, cancer survivors and veterans returning from war. Sexual trauma survivors or women, in particular, are left out of the conversation. 

Right now we’re media, so we take black and white photos, portraits of women. We talk about the trauma they’ve experienced generally while consuming cannabis. We capture those raw moments so that we can show the public that every Jane is just a woman living her life. Whatever that comes with.

This is Jane Project Picture

Where are these photos distributed? How can people find Them?

Our Instagram is our main thing and This is Jane Project on Facebook.

We’ve been doing a significant amount of outreach and engagement with people. We’ve had six events since March of 2018, four of which were in Los Angeles, one in Philadelphia. We’re super grateful for that coverage. We have one in Brooklyn the following week. 

We’re really trying to get diverse stories – things can get comfy in California. It’s interesting because we have a no feedback policy. So when you come to our events, you know that no one’s going to tell you what to do about your trauma or how to go about healing in any way. 

For you personally, how or what do you use to help with your PTSD symptoms? 

So I smoke weed all day. If we’re going to destigmatize cannabis, let’s just be honest. Right? So my experience is that I prefer smoking, which is not the healthiest. I also have chronic lung issues. But again, that’s the way that I prefer to medicate. 

My first entrance into cannabis was a blog called Cannabis for Breakfast, which to me was just cheeky, but also because generally I’ll have cannabis before breakfast. Cannabis should be destigmatized like something we consume like food for nourishment. It’s medicinal. 

Also, breathing, being present. One of the biggest things with trauma, PTSD, CPTSD is anxiety. If you have anxiety, it’s really difficult to learn how to manage your anxiety. The best tool is mindfulness, being still and being present. But when you’re afraid all the time or you’re hypervigilant or just living life as a woman, which is fucking hard sometimes, most times you need help.

Breathing that really helps me. And cannabis allowed me to do that. I couldn’t sit still before cannabis. I was high functioning. I mean, I’m still high functioning, but I wasn’t able to be honest with myself. We busy ourselves so much that we get distracted from our own truth and not being able to meditate was the biggest distraction for me.

I always tell people, on a cellular level, I was able to calm down. I could always be superficial, calm and functioning, but there was still that rattle of my heart and my cells and cannabis took that away for the most part. 

Cannabis for PTSD

What is it that you’re trying to either accomplish or see Here at MJBizCon and The Women in Cannabis Conference? 

I’m doing the first thing, which is facing my fears and talking about the project. We need money. We’re nine months old and we’re 100% self-funded. So we’re looking for investors to be founding sponsors in the project. We’re 501(c)(3) status pending, which will help us with equipment and to help us to pay people a living wage who are working for us. We just need money like everyone else. 

If somebody wants to support this specific cause, which I think is really important, how can they find you? 

So is our website.

You can donate at You can find us on Instagram at this shame project or just Googling us and a bunch of stuff should come up. 

Is There Anything We missed?

I have a co-founder, her name is Bree and she’s eight months pregnant right now. She wasn’t able to travel here. She’s everything that I’m not and vice versa. We’re honest with each other. We take feedback from each other. That’s when you really know that you have something special. So I just want to give her some shout outs.


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Event Series: Women in Cannabis “Galentines Day” Tue, 14 Jan 2020 18:35:41 +0000
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Event Series: Women in Cannabis “Galentines Day”

The Mary Jane Experience Women in Cannabis Meetup celebrates females that either work in the cannabis industry or have interest in the plant. We hope to inspire connection and future collaboration in the global cannabis community as well as honor the female flower and her power to heal the world.

We are an all-inclusive (21+) community and appreciate all voices, perspectives and genders of the cannabis industry.

This February we are putting on our next event…

Women in Cannabis Galentines Day Event DECK

This event will be taking place that the famous International Church of Cannabis in Denver, CO. A consumption friendly venue where we can freely enjoy the plant together.

Women in Cannabis Galentines Day Event

The event takes place on Feb 13th 2020 (the day before Valentines Day) and is 21+ and for female-identifying people only.

Space is limited so RSVP (free!) today:

We can’t wait to see/meet you!

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The Importance of Cannabis Lab Testing |An Interview with CannaSafe Thu, 09 Jan 2020 20:57:26 +0000
CannaSafe Testing Lab

The Importance of Cannabis Lab Testing |An Interview with CannaSafe

We wanted to learn more about what goes on in a Cannabis testing lab. What do they test for? How do they test it? What happens when a cannabis flower or product is tested and fails because it has too many pesticides? So we reached out to the first accredited Cannabis Lab in the world – CannaSafe – to learn more.

Testing Cannabis in a Lab

The below interview is with Antonio Frazier the VP of Operations at CannaSafe.

Listen to the interview anywhere you get your podcasts, like iTunes, Spotify, or on Our Site here.

How Did You Get Into Cannabis Testing?

I played football in college with our owner and current president, CEO Aaron Riley. We met at Furman University in South Carolina. He became an early cannabis entrepreneur and started recruiting me back in 2016 or 15. 

I told him no, I had a good job. At the time I was an aerospace engineer. I got my engineering degree and I was working in Baltimore and D.C. supplying jet engine parts for the military and a good bit of commercial as well. 

I thought I’d keep putting him off – until he explained more about how cannabis regulations were coming into the industry.

Aaron’s our vision guy. I’m the Ops guy and our third hire is our technical specialist. We all took on different facets of CannaSafe and built it to what it is today. It started out small – we always had very good science – but now its blown up to a 13,000 square foot monster that’s doing a third of the market. It’s all about having a consistent process to analyze data and give people precise results. 

Cannabis Pesticide Testing

For anybody that isn’t aware of what CannaSafe or any cannabis testing lab looks like, could you give us a little look inside?

Here at CannaSafe we are a profiling lab. We’re chasing the FDA standard of analyzing this medicine at a molecular level and all the things that the government’s asked us to profile for. 

Any pot that you buy in a licensed dispensary has to go through an array of testing as prescribed by the Bureau of Cannabis Control (the BCC).

We’re probably the closest thing to a regulatory body that operates within the industry under the rules. Companies have to send Cannabis Products through a lab like ours in order to get them onto dispensary shelves and stamp them safe for consumer intake.

Right now the hot topic is vaping. Vaping isn’t necessarily new, but due to different changes in the industry, different restrictions, the illicit market unfortunately grew and found a new cut – THC cut with vitamin E oil.

Our goal is to figure out what is in all these new products: eyedrops, topical shampoo, suppositories, tampons, all these interesting things people are infusing. Although the THC is totally safe by itself, and MCT oil,  and vitamin E – they could be safe in a tincture, but they’re not safe in a vape cart when it is inhaled.

We’re taking the lead in the industry to help people understand whats in their products. We’re partnering with researchers to give them our data. We found all these nasty pesticides, solvents, and vitamin E. What does that mean for someone’s lungs? 

When we have that chemical analysis, people can make better decisions when purchasing cannabis products.

CannaSafe Labs

How do you Test Weed? What Does the Process Look Like?

First and foremost, it starts with compliance sampling. We go out to a licensed distributor to observe the entire batch of flower or cannabis products and then we sample randomly and bring it back into our lab. Compliance is done that way to ensure that we get access to the entire batch before we actually test it, to make sure that the one sample we run is representative of the entire batch.

So the first step is sample collection. The next step is the extraction. We take whatever the product is, whether it is flower, a suppository, a brownie, whatever it may be, and we extract out what we’re looking for. Whether it be THC, CBD, the cannabinoids, terpenes, pesticides, solvents, we have proprietary extraction methods for each different product to extract those chemicals out.

Once you have the extractions into a container, we take the different ratios and calculations. It’s very precise. Everything has to be carefully transferred to keep the volumes consistent. 

Then we put it on a local instrument. That can be anything from an HPLC, which is high performance liquid chromatography. The majority of testing is chromatograph work.

There are other methodologies like LCMS, which is a HPLC with a mass spec on it, because certain things have to ionize to tell the differences. There’s also GC, which is the same thing, but in the gas phase. 

So it’s very precise equipment, very expensive equipment, similar to pharmaceutical work. Think along the lines of blood labs or environmental labs – none of this stuff is actually made for cannabis. So you have to be very highly skilled to understand how to make the instrument read cannabis and read it properly. 

What Are You Testing for Specifically?

I’ll run through all of the BCC requirements for assessing. There’s profile testing. Thats your cannabinoids and terpenes, THC or CBD content as well as the terpenes that go into the entourage effect, which is important for your experience. Profile testing tells you what is in it. 

There’s a law in California that requires us to test all products for residual solvents analysis. So when someone takes flower and extracts it into oil,  we make sure there’s no residual solvents there, like butane. There are limits set for that on the GCMS. 

There’s also pesticide analysis. California has the strictest requirements in the entire world making California cannabis not only the best quality, but also the cleanest. It’s much cleaner than most things labeled organic or certified. 

There are 66 pesticides that we test for. That has to be done on LCMS as well as a GCMS because certain things aren’t stable enough in the liquid form. So, if you ever hear of a lab that only tests these products on one type of instrumentation, which is probably the LC, either they have found some new methodology that no one has ever verified or heard of, or they are not actually are equipped to do what they’re supposed to be doing. 

There’s also microbial testing, so testing for any kind of mold, bacteria, or Aspergillus. We’re not actually doing yeast and mold testing in California, but through foreign matter, we do examine for mold. 

There’s moisture and water activity. Those are what we call more preventative tests. Moisture content definitely goes into your profile for how smooth something may be but also gives you an indication of if microbes are going to form, if they’re not already present. 

The final safety test is the heavy metal analysis. We have to test for four things here in California. Cadmium, arsenic, lead, and mercury. California was the first state to require heavy metals testing, although everyone now is. California is very mineral rich. The gold rush was here for a reason and cannabis absorbs everything out of the ground (a bioaccumulator).

 It’s used for phyto-remediation, which essentially pulls contaminants out of the ground. Cannabis was famously used in Chernobyl to help clean up some of the contaminated ground around the area. They pulled lithium and arsenic back out of the ground so the land could eventually be actually used for vegetation again. 

There are a lot of different things we’re looking for and the equipment that we have to use is very expensive. That’s why it’s such an expertise and why you’ve seen so many labs fail or be shut down by the BCC because they’re not doing it the right way. It’s very complicated. It’s not cheap. 

If a Product is Deemed Unsafe or Noncompliant is There a Way to Fix it or Does it Need to be Destroyed?

It depends on what it is. Certain things can be diluted to bring the levels down to acceptable levels. So some remediation is possible. There are theories about getting rid of aspergillus and other microbial issues, but certain things can’t go away. Certain things can’t be removed or are at  levels that are too high. 

There is a process. You have to have a remediation plan approved by the CDPH (The California department of public health). Once they approve of your plan, you can then try it to see if it will go to market. The good thing about buying legal is that when this stuff does pop hot or fail in the lab, there’s a  process for product to be destroyed or remediated. 

What’s scary about markets like CBD and Hemp is there’s no requirements right now. People don’t realize that these products that are available at Whole Foods or in CVS, they’re from the same plant of cannabis but have no testing requirements. When those products fail, there’s no one to follow up to make sure that they don’t make it to a shelf. 

That’s why regulation is so important and why people need to realize it is one plant. We certainly want to destigmatize the entire plant and not just CBD and THC.

There is no way to regulate the illicit market, which is why prohibition is so bad for the plant. Prohibition doesn’t work. Just like liquor, it’s not gonna work in cannabis. So with this vape thing, you can’t ban it because it’s a $5 billion market. The illicit market is not going to stop because the government says so.

We were able to determine the majority of these bad products are from the illicit market. More people are only going to die If you don’t get people legal access to safe cannabis. 

There’s a reason why that cart is $60 in the store and you’re only 20 online or on Weedmaps. We’re trying to bring people’s attention to that so that they understand the risks. 

Black Market Weed

If you were to compare cannabis flower sold on the black market to something grown in a clean green certified or organic farm what kind of difference would you see?

Generally I can see a difference in test results for terpene profiles, consistencies, and just in quality of product. Also during the experience of the high you’re going to see it as well. People think, Oh, I’ve got a headache cause I got bad weed. But more likely it is because you have cannabis full of pesticides. Pesticides, mold, and fungus can make you feel bad. 

We’re slowly but surely trying to move towards high level conversations about how to spot counterfeits, bad carts and how to deal with these things. It is dangerous. People are dying. 

Would you Say Education Should be a Top Priority in the Industry?

Yes. That’s why I was so excited when your team reached out, because it has to happen through grassroots media sources – through spreading the gospel. Word of mouth. Testimonials. I’ve seen kids go from 20 seizures a day to one or two every few months. 

Don’t let anyone ever tell you that cannabis isn’t a medicine. Not only is it slowing down diseases and deficiencies, but it also gives people a better quality of life. Better pain management. 

We’ve seen all these elderly people and sick people go from these opiate regimens to simply tinctures or vaporizers. It’s so much cheaper and they feel a higher quality of life, they’re up doing stuff again, they’re active. Parents break down crying saying, cannabis gave me my kid back, I met my kid again. 

There are so many great stories. But now we need data. We need research.

How can you know for sure that a product’s been tested, that it’s been tested well and that the results are good? What should people be looking for?

That is a multilayer question that can get really technical. Number one, legally everything on a licensed dispensary self should be tested and you can always ask your budtender. You can always ask for the COA (test results). If it’s tested by CanaSafe, we can always do batch verification here for you. 

We also have some customers who include a QR code on the packaging and we provide that to them. So you can scan it with your smartphone and the COA will come up there. 

We’re trying to educate more budtenders and patient advocates about this stuff so that when people do ask these questions the answers are there.

We’re hoping through customer demand, quite frankly, when people start asking more, this stuff will become more available. Everyone may one day be required to have a QR code on their labeling.

What are Your one, five, and Ten year industry predictions?

One year is that you’ll start seeing people asking more questions and demanding certain types of products. People will start understanding dosing better or testing better. They’ll start trying to, trying to curate their own experiences. 

I’m excited about the five year plan. I think by that time there will be some kind of federal action. Hopefully we’ve done it intelligently and California and the rest of the West coast will be supplying the rest of the state. 

There’s no need for some of these human Southern States to be growing cannabis. Hemp, sure. But the amount of resources like energy and air and light for them to grow their own state by state would be a waste I think.

Why are you going to make people in Georgia figure out how to grow high-grade medical cannabis? We’ve already seen the Mississippi federal labs struggle with the quality of the products. Why are we going to put that burden on that part of our country when we could supply it from California?

10 years. I think it’s in hospitals. I think it will be a dialed in medical treatment.The clinical trials will be done. I think we will be giving it to children as medicine. I think we will be using cannabis to change pain management. 

Trichomes up close

Is there anything that I wouldn’t have known enough to ask that people should know?

I would  point out some of the organizations that are tackling things like legislation. I think that’s important. Americans For Safe Access and Norml have done a good job historically. Things like the Compassionate Use Act are the reason why the industry is even where it is. It’s due to the Gay community rising up and demanding access.

People need to be involved with the rule making because they’re making the rules now. We need to continue to make sure that the rules are smart. 

Right now if you’re a patient you can’t consume in public housing so you can lose your housing if you find cannabis to be a good treatment. Where are the centers where people can actually smoke cannabis and not get arrested or lose their house or lose their job?

There are a lot of different things that we can do as a population to participate. Give feedback, talk to the governors, sit in assembly members offices – when it comes from their constituents it means a whole lot more than when it comes from a business. 

We’re trying to let people know that if you’re active in the community, come talk to us. We will supply you with the tools. We will supply you with the information. We would love for you to speak on our behalf and to activate on our behalf.

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Review: Honey Oil CBD Vape and Tincture Mon, 06 Jan 2020 17:16:12 +0000
Honey Oil CBD Vape

Review: Honey Oil CBD Vape and Tincture

Honey Oil would not likely be a product that I would choose based on branding alone. If you know me at all, you know that I am a sucker for hipster-Pantone-colored branding and packaging design . Honey oil seems to be a little more on the stoner-branding side with honey yellow and black. So my first impression was, ‘this can’t be organic’ and ‘is this brand going to be quality?

Honey Oil CBD Vape

I looked a little deeper into their products, and while I couldn’t find anything saying that they grow organic hemp (or Clean Green), they do tout the highest quality USA (colorado) sun-grown hemp and the cleanest test results. Often brands grow organically but cannot legally say that – so hoping that to be the case here. 

The third-party lab results show no pesticides and no heavy metals while also showing good levels of the desired cannabinoids (See test results here). I have had bad experiences with CBD products that have given me headaches, so I was not willing to try this without looking into the ingredients first.

Honey Oil Lab Results

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The Vape: I chose to try OG Kush Broad Spectrum Indica Vape Cartridge

Honey Oil Review

 The Vaporizer can be adjusted to hit just about as strong or as mild as you would like, and I found the smoking experience to be nearly perfect, except it is a little harsh on the lungs. I am not a huge smoker – leaning more towards tinctures and edibles – so it could very well be that I am just not as used to the feeling on my lungs as someone else may be.

Unlike bad experiences I’ve had in the past, this vape has a calming effect, much like smoking a very mild joint or cigarettes. I started carrying this little guy around with me everywhere and hitting it before or during stressful times in the day. It was also an excellent tool during times where I just needed to step outside.

I chose OG Kush instead of something fruity, and I was glad to have a tasty, mildly weedy flavor that makes me feel like I’m hitting a joint without getting too high. So I would give the flavor profile an excellent rating.

Lastly, they sent a rose gold battery with the cartridge, and I thought it was beautiful and stylish. Something about having a beautiful smoking accessory makes the experience a little more fun.

Overall, a great product! I would certainly recommend for someone looking for a clean vape that will not cause you deadly lung issues. Honey Oil has an excellent reputation for producing products of the highest quality, and it is a brand that can be trusted.

Honey Oil Tincture Review

The Tincture: I Chose the Honey Oil Natural Full Spectrum CBD Oil 500mg

The flavor is mild and easy to consume. It has a slight weed flavor, but it is almost lovely that it has a little canna-flavor, and it is easy to consume under the tongue or in any beverage. I am always skeptical of CBD tinctures, do they work? 

It is always hard to tell if the effects are placebo, but both Casey Jones and agreed that this tincture seemed to have calming effects over a few weeks that we used it.

The tincture is made with pure MCT oil, a healthy fat that makes cannabinoids more bioavailable. It is full-spectrum, which means it contains CBD, CBC, CBDV, CBN, CBG, <0.3% THC that can all work together to produce the “Entourage effect,” also making the tincture work better for most peoples endocannabinoid System. The product is third party tested to be safe and pure; there is nothing I can complain about.

The tincture is even safe for your furry friends so that you can share with your dog during a thunderstorm.

Both the Vaporizer and CBD Oil would be great for:




Headache Relief

General Relaxation




Mild Pain Relief


Overall we have only great things to say about the Honey Oil products we tried! Have you tried Honey Oil? Let us know about your experience. Questions? Let us know, and we will do our best to answer them

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